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call it manufactured outbreak. it is having an impact on the administration. now the white house is reacting. minutes from now, we will hear from the president. he will talk about the economy. press secretary robert gibbs will likely get hammered on what advice, the white house is giving democratic senators when they start heading back to their home districts later today. martha: we are waiting for an incredible skydiving jump from one of our nation's heroes. he is a retired sergeant first class with the u.s. army. he is also a double amputee. he was awarded a purple heart. he lost his legs when he was a member of the army's elite parachuting team. the most important part of this story is that none of that has stopped this veteran. he is taking to the skies once again. he is parachuting for a very good cause. molly henneberg joins us with more on this amazing story.
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the skies are so blue above you, molly. we cannot wait to see this event. >> i know. we are trying to find him in the sky. i can see him coming down right now. this is such a great event. a former army sergeant first class who lost his legs in a mid-air collision when he was parachuting now has to prosthetic legs and is parachuting to encourage wounded warriors. let me bring and this man from the spirit of liberty foundation. >> we believe that no one can say thank you enough. it is incredible. american used to say thank-you to all of these men and women who volunteer. >> really quickly, let me introduce you to the commander of the walter reed garrison. this has never happened here before. >> this is the first paratrooper we have had. >> thank you very much. >> he was treated here after his
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accident. his doctors had not cleared him to do another skydive. he left walter reed without his doctors knowing and he did his first skydive five months after the accident. we're waiting for him to land. he has a purple heart parachute and he is trailing behind a 1,000 foot american flag. now he is separated from that. you can see him coming down. he is going to land right here on this grassy area. there are a number of people who have come out to watch this event. my photographer is going to pan over to see them. they are employees, parents, -- patients, and families. he loves doing this event so much, skydiving. he was also a member of the golden knights, which is the
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very elite army paratrooper squadron. it is the best of the best. they do shows all over the country. he was injured in 1994. we're going to go over and try to talk to him. martha: what an amazing sight this is. it is beautiful. we watch him coming down. we want to bring in a member from the wounded warrior program. what kind of message does this send to other patients of walter reed? [inaudible] martha: let's just watch. the flag touched the ground. >> there he is. he just landed here on the grounds outside of walter reed. he has his purple heart parachute. behind him is the american flag
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on the ground. he is greeting everybody here. it is so inspiring to see him here. he retired from the army in 1996. this is fox news channel. >> it is a pleasure to see you. how do you feel coming down here? >> it was awesome. for the army, navy, marines -- he looked great from up there and you look better from down here. it was about 15 years ago since my accident. the tragedy took the life of my partner and both of my legs. they took great care of me. it looks like they're doing that for the soldiers here today. i am glad to be a part of that. >> what is your message to people who have had war injuries or otherwise have disability issues? >> the messages for the old, the physically challenged, and especially our wounded soldiers
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about landing on target no matter what happens to you, whether you are civilian or in the military, you can still continue on. without the help of our soldiers, we would not have the opportunity for the price of that freedom. that is the reason that would brought the flag down. >> even though you lost both of your legs in the accident, it did not stop you from doing what you love. >> my motto is, it is not a disability, it is an ability. we are only given one chance at life. we have to do the best with that. >> thank you for joining us today. great job of there. what an inspiration. he is going to speak to some of the wounded veterans and give them some words of encouragement. martha: maybe we can catch some of that. it is an extraordinary sight. you cannot help but get
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emotional when you listen to this man. it has to be such an inspiration to the patients there. we can all understand how you could be in the situation they are in and find it very hard to go on and on certain days. imagine watching him coming out of the sky and the feeling of inspiration that must give to so many of our wounded veterans. what a great organization. what a terrific group. trace: when you are talking about the velocity these guys are flying at, he collided with his partner in midair. you can reach speeds up board to 200 miles per hour. these two collided and the impact of 300 m.p.h. killed his partner. he lost both his legs. yet, he gets back into an airplane five months after the accident back in 1994 and he jumped again. a huge inspiration for a lot of
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people in the military. that was great fun to watch here on friday afternoon. they want their voices heard and they want answers now. there is a steady roar out there that sounds something like this. [screaming] [yelling] trace: what it means for the health-care debate next. my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about aspirin and your heart. i'm going to be grandma for a long time. you could buy 300 bottles of water. or just one brita filter. ( drop plinks ) brita-- better for the environment and your wallet.
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an inspiration to wounded soldiers around the world. jumping moments ago. just a phenomenal site. martha: that was great. back to the other big story we're following. they are angry and they are demanding answers what is really in this health care bill. how is it going to be paid for? why some of them feel washington is not listening. that is what these people are yelling about and firing back about. they are worried about a government health option. they say that -- the white house is telling its side. you better do your homework and you better expect to face some of these crowns. james rosen join us live from washington. >> good afternoon. whether it is driven by genuine passionate, overflow crowd nymex, or simple hooliganism, the anchor erupting at healthcare town halls marks an unmistakable phenomenon in
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american politics. it to term democrat felt the heat in a town hall last night. 1500 white people showed up, many excluded from the room, shouting inside and outside of the room. she held her ground in reaffirmed her support for public health care. outside the bernard middle school gym in south st. louis county in misery, a forum on aging turned violent, as you can see. county police arrested six people including suspicion of assault, resisting arrest, and disturbing the peace. a dispatch reporter was among those arrested. the man we saw on the ground that complained of being attacked has been identified as a 38-year-old conservative activist. not all town halls have turned
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laudatory all. senator claire mccaskill presided over a spirited town hall where she faced pointed questions, but no violence. the senator called for everyone just to chill -- my word, not hers. >> it is not bad -- it is not good manners and it is not persuasive. i hope everyone quits yelling, let's talk, let's discuss these proposals. let's answer questions and be polite to one another. >> republicans will also be hitting the town hall circuit. chuck grassley will be holding four of them. joe barton from texas holds a pair of town hall meetings in texas on august 17.
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martha: let's talk about this very hot issue with our panel. juan williams is here. amanda carpenter is here. welcome, everybody. there is an unmistakable passion out there. even if somebody is organizing some of these people, when was the last time that we saw rooms fall of a large majority of senior citizens leaving their summertime fun and heading into these rooms? they are passionate. they're there for a reason, obviously. >> they have real feelings and real concerns about health care reform. there is lots of media attention to the prospect of violence, but the real issue is beneath the surface that people have to pay attention to. you can see it in the poll numbers that president obama is showing, numbers with regard to his health care reform policies.
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people still have less confidence in the republicans, but that is not to say that they're confident that the president's plan for the health- care system will help them and help their personal costs. martha: there is no doubt that this has gotten the attention of the white house. the things we were hearing earlier in the week, references to mob mentality and things like that -- that message seems to be changing a little bit. clare mccaskill said, come down, we need to talk about this. i respect the other side. are we hearing a bit of a massive change? >> i think democrats want their supporters to show up to some of these events as well. they're going to be organizing around that. we need some people in the audience as well. this is a big problem for president obama. it is easy to marginalize it by trying to refer to them as moms. it is going on across the country. the democrats realize that they are going to need some kind of
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push back. if everyone is shouting, no one is talking. democrats need to be having a conversation about health care. martha: one of the real difficulties is that the other side does not seem to be able to articulate what exactly people are in for with their health care plan. i think that is what is causing a lot of the frustration. we heard from the reports coming out of the white house that they are saying, you better do your homework. you better know what is in this bill so you can actually answer those questions when you get home. >> there is going to be a renewed effort to get democratic supporters into the town hall meetings. there is a group that works closely with other unions. they wrote a memo on the internet. it's as, you need to work with your members of congress to find ways to protect them during these town hall meetings. map out a strategy with them beforehand so that the right
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messages get heard handset of being drowned out by protesters. these town halls could become a showdown. martha: president obama on the economy in the rose garden. >> last week, we received a report on america's gross domestic product, an important measure of our economic health. it showed marked improvement over the last few months. this morning, we received additional signs that the worst might be behind us. though we lost 247,000 jobs in july, there was nearly 200,000 fewer jobs lost in june. far fewer than the nearly 700,000 jobs the month that we were losing in the beginning of the year. today, we are pointed in the right direction. we're losing jobs at less than half the rate we were when i took office. we have pulled the financial
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system back from the brink and the market is restoring value to those 401ks that are the foundation for a secure retirement. we have enabled families to reduce payments on their mortgages, making their homes more affordable, and reducing the number of foreclosures. we helped revive the credit markets and opened up -- loans for families and small businesses. while we have rested our economy from catastrophe, which also have begun to build a new foundation for growth. that is why we passed an unprecedented recovery act less than a month after i took office. we did so without any of the earmarks that are so common in washington. there is a lot of misinformation about the recovery act. let me repeat what is in what it is not. the plan is divided into three parts. 1/3 of the money is for tax relief that is going directly to families and small businesses,
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for americans struggling to pay rising bills, we have kept a campaign promise to put a middle-class tax cut in the pocket of 95% of working families. it began showing up in paychecks about four months ago. we also cut taxes for small businesses and substantially increase loans to the small businesses administration. another 1/3 of the money is for emergency relief that is helping people bear the brunt of this recession. we expanded unemployment benefits, a measure that has already made a difference in the lives of 12 million americans. we're making health insurance 65% cheaper for families that rely on cobra while they're looking for work. we provided assistance to save jobs of tens of thousands of teachers, police officers, and other public service workers.
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these 2/3 of the recovery act have helped people to weather the worst phases of this recession, while stabilizing our economy and saving jobs. the last third is dedicated to the vital investments that are putting people back to work today to create a stronger economy tomorrow. part of that is the largest new investment of infrastructure in america since eisenhower build the interstate highway system back in the 1950's. these are jobs rebuilding america. the upgrading roads and bridges car renovating schools and hospitals. as we begin to put an end to this recession, we have to consider what comes next. we can't afford to return to an economy based on inflated profits -- profits and maxed out credit cards where we depend on outdated sources of energy in an economy where we are burdened by soaring health-care prices that serve only special interests. this will not create sustainable
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growth, it will not shrink our deficit, and it will not create jobs. that is why we put an end to the status quo that got us into this crisis. we cannot turn back to the failed policies of the past. now is the time to build a new foundation for a stronger, more productive economy that creates the jobs of the future. this foundation has to be supported by several pillars to our economy. we need a historic commitment to education so that america is the most highly educated work force in the world. we need health insurance reform that brings down cost and provide security for people who have insurance and more affordable options for those who do not. that is where the jobs of the futures are in clean energy. that is the competition that will shape the 21st century. that is a race that america must win.
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we have a lot further to go. as far as i'm concerned, we will not have a true recovery as long as we're losing jobs. we will not rest until every american that is looking for work can find a job. i have no doubt that we can make these changes. it will not be easy. change is hard. we have a steep mountain to climb. we started from a very deep valley. i have faith in the american people and their capacity for hard work and innovation and commitment to one another and courage to face adversity. we have seen already the strength of character over the course of this recession. across the country, people have persevered even as bills have piled up at work has been hard to come by. everywhere i go, i meet americans who have kept confidence in their country and our future. that is how we pull the economy back from the brink. that is why we are turning this economy around.
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i'm convinced that we see a light at the end of the tunnel, but we will have to move forward with confidence in conviction to reach the promise of a new day. thank you very much. martha: the president laying out some of what he sees as successes so far, saying that we fulfilled our promise to give america a tax cut. he also said that a tax -- a catastrophe in the economy was avoided. he also talked about insurance reform and energy jobs being the main pillars of what he sees as the boy to get back to a more productive economy. major garrett is watching all this and joins us now from the white house. what was the purpose of coming out today? what did he try to accomplish here? >> the president was talking about the end of the recession and turning the economy around gradually, though slowly. some might be wondering, how could the u.s. economy shed
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247,000 jobs and unemployment go down? here is how. the labor department starts with a count of active americans in the work force and those looking for work. what it did in the month of july, as it does in many months, is, those who are actively looking for jobs, but do not have them. it's attracted about 700,000 united states citizens from the work force who are no longer actively worked -- looking for work. that shrank the overall labor force. that suggested that people lost their jobs, but the unemployment rate went down because fewer of them are actively looking for jobs. the labor department does this on a routine basis. that is how this happened. all the white house is saying that the job losses on a monthly basis are declining and that is a good sign, they're quick to say they are not satisfied with that.
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we are certainly a long way from 150,000 jobs per month created. martha: let's go wrong with the can -- with the panel and get their thoughts. juan williams, it has been a lot of difficult times for president obama. is he trying to fix the message a little bit and send people off feeling slightly better? >> without a doubt. you have got to put a positive spin on it. they have been taking a lot of hits and losing the confidence of the american people in terms of the president poss's ability to deal with the effectiveness of the stimulus plan and the wall street bailout. here was a moment when people thought the unemployment numbers were going to jump to double digits. martha: that is a number that looks good in the headlines. this health-care thing is not going to go way for president
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obama. everyone is going to get in your fall as we have been watching. >> it is all tied together. the white house knows that the perceptions on the economy are important when you're talking about health care. so, jumping on something like this is of statistical significance and also political significance. i do think that helps the rest of the agenda. martha: if the economy starts to turn around, people might feel a little bit lighter and brighter about this health care situation. >> if that does happen. i think the president is trying to make a very tough sell. but they are saying is because the economy has stopped contracting as fast as it was, that is not recovery. people do not have jobs and they are not going to buy it. trace: a taliban chief reportedly taken down. what it means for our troops overseas and the war in
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trace: we have brand new information on three big stories. the start of the school year is weeks away. there are new concerns over the h1n1 virus. >> the latest federal guidance for schools during a suspected outbreak is not to shut down. instead, try to find ways to stay open by doing things like setting up a quarantine room for six students and staff and also talking to parents about making arrangements now. health officials say that vaccine is still the best defense against swine flu. people are asked to thoroughly wash hands, and cough or sneeze into their elbow. trace: training soldiers for
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different scenarios. >> senior cadets at the u.s. military academy at west point are receiving updated field training that goes beyond tactics -- tactics and drills. cultural and ethical scenarios are being added into the mix. trace: hurricane felicia aiming toward hawaii. what is the track and the strength? >> if we can switch over to whether thirteen, i will show it to you, a category 2 storm, 100 miles per hour sustained winds. there is starting to weaken. about 1,200 miles away from hawaii. let's take a look at that track as we go further out over the next several days. just a low pressure system. still expecting some large waves. we could see some rain and some gusty winds by tuesday.
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back to you. trace: that is brand new information at the bottom of the hour. martha: score a big one for the good guys. it looks like one of the world's most wanted terrorists is now dead. he was said to have been killed in a u.s. missile strike in pakistan. his wife also reportedly killed in that strike. he was suspected of plotting numerous terror attacks. he is believed to have killed hundreds of people in pakistan, including -- he has been implicated in the assassination of benazir bhutto. the mountains of the afghan border. jennifer griffin joins us live from the pentagon. obviously, this was a big hit for the u.s. military. talk about what you produce what they believe he was doing in
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that border region between afghanistan and pakistan. >> let me first mention something that i have just learned and just confirmed from a u.s. official with access to the latest intelligence. i am told that the u.s. intelligence committee -- community is not waiting any more for any sort of dna or pictures to confirm that he is dead. they are assuming at this point in time that he is dead. what they're waiting for his signals intelligence, the intercepts that they get from mobile phones in communications out in those tribal areas amongst his supporters. they are trying to figure out who the successor is. there are two or three primary successors that they are keeping their eye on. i am told that the tribal meeting of the elders is meeting right now with many top taliban commanders trying to figure out
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who will take his place. among u.s. intelligence officials, there is a day -- there's not a question of whether he is dead. they are not waiting for dna evidence. they're waiting to listen and see evidence of who the successor is. martha: that is fascinating. thank you for that update. we have been watching in pakistan as the taliban has encroached about 40 miles away from his love of god. this man was central in that effort. is there a feeling at the pentagon that this might open up a window of vulnerability as they her look for a new person to move into his shoes? >> absolutely. in the intelligence community, there is a feeling that even once they choose -- one of the reasons they're moving is because there are rifle taliban commanders. there are ones who are willing to fill the power vacuum. that is why they are going to
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want to choose a successor very quickly. some are considered more moderate. some are considered more hard- line. all eyes on who they choose. definitely a feeling among u.s. intelligence officials that basically, there will be a significant drop-off in terms of the effectiveness of this clan to carry out attacks and be a force within pakistan o. this was pakistan's osama bin laden. he was responsible for benazir bhutto's assassination. he blew up the marriott hotel. this was a big get for then. martha: thank you very much. trace: president obama is lending his star power to a democratic candidate in virginia. with recent poll showing president obama's approval ratings dipping to -- dipping to 50%, how will his influence of
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the democratic candidates in all of the upcoming 2008 elections? wendell goler is following that. >> there are a couple of governors races this fall. experts say that president obama is not likely to make a significant difference in either of them. his own following approval ratings do not help. he is down 50% support. there are other factors at play in both of these races. the president campaigned last night for craigh deeds in virginia. his attempt is almost as long a shot as his own when they're in november. president obama, the first presidential candidate for the democrats to win the state in decades. >> interestingly, the state does not care whether there is a democratic or republican president. since 1977, they have always voted against the presidential
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party in the white house. it is the best indicator of who is going to win the governor's race in virginia. >> jon corzine is so far behind the republican contender. after the arrests of dozens of public officials and political operatives, he has nearly doubled his lead in the polls. it is now 14 points. significantly, the number of people who felt that corruption was an important problem in new jersey went from 6% to 13% after those arrests. trace: wendell goler, thank you. martha: we want to take you live to this news conference in chicago. this is at the cemetery where bodies were dug up and those areas resoled. let's listen for a minute. >> i am joined by numerous people who helped us during this
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case. tom? >> good afternoon. the fbi would like to express its heartfelt condolences to those who are affected by the tragic events here at ferro -- and brokat burr oaks. thank you to the cook county highway department and the cook county forest preserve. they did so with a great deal of reference, ever mindful of the fact that what we were recovering was more than just evidence, it was human remains. i wish we could have fully identified all the remains recovered to give some sort of closure to the families affected by this unfortunate occurrence. however, as we got into our search efforts, we realized that into -- doing so would be highly
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improbable. even if we could have obtained the dna profile from a bone or fragments thereof, we would have the problem of who would compare that with. therefore, we would be faced with the possibility of taking a sample from every viable relative we knew of had that had a loved one or at a relative buried here. martha: basically, it would have been too tough a job, almost impossible to trace some of those bones and figure out which family they should be joined with. a horrible story outside of chicago. trace: the president is putting billions of dollars toward developing electric car batteries. where do the batteries we use now go where they died? there is a staggering number of them. it is our fact of the day. check this out.
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getting word now of multiple shooting victims' on long island. let's get to the national desk. martha: we're watching the feed coming in. let's get a closer look at this house. this is in ralong island. >> i want to go to the website. they have the freshest information. the headline here is a deadly shooting. at least two people are shot. wnyw is reporting that it least two people have been shot dead. i am told this is a very nice neighborhood. police are on scene. at one point, it was being reported that there was a search for it least one suspect and maybe more. the police are not saying much. it does not seem to be an active search. we're trying to figure that out. we're also trying to get a description. we're reporting to people dead and another shot.
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martha: where just listening to the chopper. there was a moving van out front of the house. they do not know of the moving van has any involvement, but we will keep a close ally -- a close eye on it. trace: what does he do? he drops stones and one by one until the water is high enough for him to drink. the moral is necessity is the mother of invention. this experiment was done by researchers at cambridge university with rooks, very much like crows. he is in here. in that jar, there is a warm. when he reaches the peak in there, he cannot reach it. they put stones in there. the rook grabs a stone and it raises the water level. he still cannot reach this thing. what do they do? they put it back in there.
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what does he do? he grabs more -- where are the stones? the video is going backwards here. he grabs more of these. he bags -- he grabs the big one. somehow, we get the video rwanda again. -- rewound again. he grabs another stone. he can get it. one more stone. that does the trick. martha: that is incredible. christopher, it seems to me like the moral here is, are we not giving birds and of credit for being smart and maybe reasoning this whole thing out? >> the that we are finding that the crow family is really quite intelligent. they have quite a small rain.
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they seem to be able to do some remarkable things. we're being surprised all the time at their amazing things that they can do, using tools to solve these rather complex tasks. trace: these birds have been able to use these various tools. they are very much like crows. it is kind of amazing here. it is amazing to me that he figured out that it was not high enough. you put another rockin there and it is not high enough. it is kind of amazing how the theory of deduction goes into this. >> certainly. they seem to understand the task and the tools that they are using. so, we see that they're able to
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find -- to figure out the problem using reasoning. we thought that was unique with humans and primates. the only other creature to be doing this was the orangutan. we're seeing that the intelligence of these birds is greater than we thought. martha: that is no need. when birds build nests, it is an amazingly beautiful process and how perfect they get the nest to make that home out of twigs. i'm not surprised. i thing birds are amazing. martha: smarter than the average bird. uncle sam shelling out a down
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payment on car batteries. it is billed as the largest of zero battery -- automobile battery program ever. supporters say that it will push america's car batteries ahead of competitors. what about all the old car batteries? our fact of the day, about 10 million lead acid car batteries go on recycled every year. hege one filled with 21 pounds of lead, 3 pounds of plastic, and a gallon of sulfuric acid. trace: pilot fatigue and low wages, they may have played the role in the deadly crash. remember the one in buffalo? find out what lengths commercial pilots are going to to get sleep and save money.
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- trace: florida senator mel martinez resigns. we're awaiting a live news conference to find out why he did that. senator john mccain jabbing president obama on twitter. in the bottom box, president obama approving additional funds for cash for clunkers, allocating an additional $2 billion to the program. the first $1 billion was used up in about one week. martha: pilot fatigue is said to be one of the factors in the horrible aircraft back in february. that crash killed 49 people.
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some pilots are taking matters into their own hands just to get a few hours of sleep in between fights -- in between flights and save money. where are these crash pads? >> i spoke to one and he said the best estimate is there and are somewhere between 501,000. typically, they are near these large flying hubs. these pilots and copilots do not earn enough money to actually bring their families to the washington, d.c. area, so they base their family in another part of the country and when the report to work in the washington area, they stay overnight at one of these crash pads. it costs them about $200 a month. critics of this whole situation -- i am not quite sure what to call it. they say that it is not
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inappropriate way to get rest, but the pilots to use them say that they cannot afford hotels. the other option is sleeping in the pilot lounges. i do not think that is a very good option either. martha: it comes down to how the airlines to find rest time. it is not always sleep, is it? >> one of the interesting things that came through is one pilot who is an officer with one of the flight association said that the rest time is defined 15 minutes after the door to the cabin opens on the plane. that is when it begins. it ends when the pilot reports to the airport the following morning. all that travel time going to a hotel, doing the paperwork and then checking in, reporting back to work, that is all included. in many situations, pilots and copilots may only be looking at five hours of actual time that they are able to sleep. martha: what is the faa going to
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do about it? any plans? >> there's been a series of reports. the head of the faa says that he is going to try to find some solutions for pilot fatigue. right now, they have a study group looking at the issue. when you talk to people who really have to fly the planes, whether it is the pilot or the co-pilot, what they have told us is it really comes down to the wages in the end. they do not have enough money to live near the hubs. the airlines do not have the money to give them a little wage, in their opinion. martha: a tough situation. trace: you talk about the great escape, a guy used dental floss to break out of prison. how exactly did he use the dental floss? that is next.
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ñ trace: we begin with a fox news alert. that is a live look at the white house briefing room. moments from now, press secretary robert gibbs is set to face the media. undoubtedly, he will be hammered on the health care town halls that are growing more contentious like this. that is the overflow crowd in
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tampa, fla. shouting to get in. the cops were called in to restore order. a federal journalist and his equipment got trampled. let's get live to mike emanuel. >> if you get hit and one of those town hall meetings, we will punch back twice as hard, robert gibbs is expected to step to the white house podium and likely to get questions about that comment and the increasingly intense nature of those town hall meetings coast- to-coast. trace: let's get down to california. a lot of companies want to build wind power plants out there and not being allowed to. >> the alternative energy initiative in california stalling in some places. it falls victim to old-style union tactics. some developers say that they're
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going to be tied up in the legislative process. back to you. trace: it is a beautiful day out there. martha: there is a huge piece of news today. one of the world's most dangerous terrorists now believed to be dead. the taliban leader reportedly was taken out in a cia airstrike in pakistan's south waziristan. he led tech -- he led attacks against u.s. forces by helping to supply that border region. he is also blamed for the assassination of former pakistan prime minister benazir bhutto. has jennifer griffin reported earlier, they shifted their focus on to who was going to
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take over for him, which is a signal that they are fairly certain that he is gone. the people of pakistan and undoubtedly will be safer, at least in the interim, one would expect. i'm scott, welcome. h>> the pakistan government is delighted by these intelligence reports. they are not 100% confirming it yet because they do not have physical evidence. that is the latest that we have. they're sending a team down there to find some kind of hard evidence, physical evidence, either somebody parts or maybe they will exhume graves so that they can match it to members of
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his family so that they can confirm that he is -- that he was killed in that strike. here in islamabad, we know that in the wake of this potential killing, security has been beefed up. a military official expects a dip in attacks from the taliban because of this transformation from the leadership. they are bracing for the worse. they're putting more security forces on the street because they are worried that there might be some reprisal attacks because of this potential killing. martha: no doubt, the taliban will want to flex its muscle in any way that it can. what does this mean on the war in pakistan and also by extension in the war in afghanistan? let's bring in an iraq war veteran. he is the chairman and executive director of vets for freedom. welcome.
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it is good to have you with us. on the face of it, this is a victory, the killing of this terrorist. what does it mean for our people on the ground in afghanistan and also of the fight to push the taliban back further and back into the mountains? >> absolutely, it is an important development. it cuts off the head of an important organization. the taliban and al qaeda are very light. he sheltered osama bin laden in foreign fighters. he had over 4004 in fighters under his command. that is a small army. when you cut off the head, it will push back a tax for a while. when we killed al zarqawi in iraq, that changed our forces. it was enough troops, it was the counterinsurgency strategy that we pursued.
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we need to do a similar comprehensive approach to afghanistan. we need to work with our counterparts in pakistan to deny payment to the enemy. you focus on the population and having enough troops to do so. they're working on a plan right now. i am hoping that we will commit to that. martha: to remind everybody, this troubled region that we just showed, with this man was doing is to help secure the border area between pakistan and afghanistan and allow the flow of taliban fighters into pakistan. in pakistan, you have the army that a lot of people feel needs more help. the taliban with love to get its hands on that, right? >> it absolutely would. not only has he declared jiha ifd against the united states, but he has sought to destabilize pakistan. he is largely blamed for the
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assassination of benazir bhutto. they do not see much difference between pakistan and afghanistan. we have to make sure we do not give them haven. that is right next door to where osama bin laden's son was killed. this is ground zero for bad guys. hopefully we can continue to do these kinds of attacks. martha: thank you for serving our country and for being with us today. the afghan ambassador to the united states joins us. it is very good to have you with us. tell me your reaction to the take out of this terrorist in pakistan. what does it mean for you? >> it is a major accomplishment, not only for the united states, but people of afghanistan and pakistan.
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he had a lot of blood on his hands. if there is no support for the taliban outside of afghanistan, they will not be able to resist for long in afghanistan. martha: i spoke with colonel oliver north and we talked about the military effort going on in afghanistan. he was saying he believes that in order to build up the afghan army, which many people seem to agree needs to happen, we have to send more support in for training of the afghan army. stabilizing afghanistan is such a central part to all of this. >> we have made significant progress in building the police force. we need more trainers. we're short of at least 4000 traders. a significant number of the troops going to afghanistan will be allocated to train more afghan police and army officers. certainly, there is a shortage
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of trainers and afghanistan. martha: what do you do in your position to request that kind of help? >> we have been in close contact with u.s. officials and the u.s. military in afghanistan. it is clear that some of these traders were supposed to be coming from nato countries and they will not be available anytime soon. martha: how concerned and are you about the situation in your country? how successful do you think the american effort is there right now? >> we have serious challenges in afghanistan and around afghanistan. the afghan people are resilient. we're used to those challenges. we have the right ingredients for success. we're seeing an increased presence of the u.s. military in afghanistan.
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an important milestone to measure the success in afghanistan is our upcoming elections. martha: we're looking forward to seeing the results of that as well. ambassador, thank you very much. trace: from coast to coast, town halls across the nation outrage is growing. some say that this is all manufactured. new polls say the anchor building across america is very real. the numbers next. you need to be your own advocate. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. you take care of your kids, now it's time to take care of yourself.
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martha: this stunning development in the casey anthony murder. their new documents that show that there was no blood found in the trunk of her car. alleged bloodstains were an
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important part of the prosecution's case. in the middle box, a government- controlled aig reported that its first quarterly profit since 2007, it made $1.8 billion. the government owns 80% of the company. french tourists among at least 12 people were killed when a typhoon caused a dyk to collapse in the philippines. the typhoon is heading towards taiwan. trace: the august recess for the u.s. senate begins today. it means that senators will head back to their respective districts. many will hold a town hall meetings on health care. 11 of those town hall meeting scheduled for this weekend. this is a town hall meeting just outside of tampa florida.
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many of those who showed up for angry for a couple of reasons. one, they do not like health care proposal, and the crown -- and the people were so big that they could not get inside. here's a sample of the anchor that john dingell was facing. >> i have a question for this young man. he has the right to be represented. i am his father and i want to talk to you face to face. this man would be given no care whatsoever because he is says terrible palsy victim. trace: the democrats say that this is manufactured outrage. the majority of american voters are very concerned about the proposals now being debated in congress. a new poll numbers support that. i want to put up the first pole if i can on the screen for our audience.
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americans with health insurance rate their coverage as good or excellent, almost 70% of that. we're more concerned that we have a lot more to lose than we have to gain in this health-care battle. >> that is exactly right. that is the fundamental issue here. 68% of americans not only have insurance, they're happy with it. that means that any proposal, the first thing you have to do is convince these people are not point to be hurt by it. they are not going to be terribly enthusiastic about any level of change that comes. trace: 41% of americans strongly oppose health care reform. 25% strongly favor it. this whole thing was sold months ago as there are 47 million americans uninsured. then we found out to do that, we
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have to pay for it. to do that, there is going to be changing your healthcare benefits. >> that is a in a nutshell. americans want everything but they do not want to pay for it. it would be great to ensure everybody, that would be great. any proposal, no matter how we have tested it, no matter what popularity of it is, if we say to achieve that goal, would you be willing to change the insurance you have, people overwhelmingly say no. you are stuck with a situation where people are dealing with the realities of five different committees that proposed five different ideas and they are nervous about all of the outcomes. most americans, 53% now think that rather than saving money, health care reform would end up costing more money. trace: you made a good point there. there is no plan on the table right now. there are a bunch of different proposals. there is still no concrete way to pay for all of this.
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we do not know with the villains are from day to day. two months later, they were the villains. >> here is what they do know. americans have a long history of being skeptical about government programs working, so they want to know some details before they sign off on it. by 2 to 1 margin, the american people realize that no matter how bad things are, congress could make it worse. there's a lot of skepticism out there, especially when there is no single plan to point to. trace: maybe it is too precise. is there one trigger point in this whole wide debate -- we do this every day. we have debated it every day. i'm not really sure it means
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that. is there one thing they're saying, i just do not understand this or i have just against this thing? >> they are not understand what the real benefit would be. most americans when they talk about health reform, what they're thinking of is it would be great if the costs could come down, if i could give my tests easier, things to make bad behavior cheap again. so, the goals have not matched very well. trace: scott, it is great to have you. martha: and in may charged with shooting a police officer then pulls off a daring escape. this guy is still on the lam, but his partner in crime was quickly caught. he is speaking out. >> if you were to give someone
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step-by-step instructions on what you did, what you -- what would you tell them to do? >> it is not worth it. you have to run and look over your shoulder all the time. martha: wait until you hear how these guys broke out of prison using common everyday dental floss. (male announcer) if you've had a heart attack caused by a completely blocked artery, other heart attack could be rking, waiting to strike. a heart attack caused by a clot, one that could be fatal. but plavix helps save lives. plavix, taken with other heart medicines goes beyond what other heart medicines do alone to provide greater protection against heart attack or stroke and even death by helping to keep blood platelets from sticking together and forming clots. ask your doctor about plavix, protection that helps save lives. (female announcer) if you have stomach ulcer or other condition that causes bleeding, you should not use plavix.
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trace: there is breaking news from the associated press. there is a report saying that in the past several months on at least a dozen different occasions, airspeed indicator is on u.s. flights failed. it was an air speed indicator they believe was the cause of the air france crash that killed all of those people. in air speed indicator is a tube
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on the outside of a planned. it looks like a small torpedo. the air goes in that tube and it registers inside the cockpit. if that fails, you cannot tell how fast you are flying. the all happened on a330 airplanes. a dozen times, the pilots say that it was brief. they did not know how fast they're going. the same type of aircraft that air france went down a couple of months ago with. very scary. the faa is not commenting on this, nor is the national transportation safety board. martha: to inmates make a daring escape from an arkansas jail.
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they used dental floss to get through the bars of their cell. he was nabbed in just days after the breakout. the other is still out there. he was awaiting trial for shooting at a police officer. for more on this, we're joined by a correspondent for "america's most wanted." this is an incredible breakouts story. >> i have seen a lot of prison breaks, but this one takes the cake. to have dental floss and to use this to saw through the bars, it took them about five days. once he got it loose enough, he took his foot and he kicked it open. he had to work on the bulletproof window. he just practiced sawwing and off they went. martha: that is incredible.
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that is the way it is designed. he was just going back and forth with the dental floss and was realizing it was making an indentation on the pipe. after that, they have to get over two fences that were topped with barbed wire, like the ones we just saw. >> you are exactly right. probably the industrial type of dental floss is what he use, i imagine. he was just messing with it and toying with it. over time, he saw that it was starting to cut through. he took a blanket and he was throwing it over the top of the fences and boosting of umberto. so, he had a little bit more
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difficulty getting over the top of the fence. the at a car waiting for them. umberto is still on the run. martha: they looked back and they could see that there were guys in almost every window watching them. >> there were guys in every window. it is amazing people -- that more people did not follow them. his plan was to get as many people inside the jail follow him as possible. martha: quite a story. thank you very much. trace: he might be armed to the teeth. martha: i bet they do not give out dental floss. do you think they still given out at most prisons now that we have told every inmate in america that the dental floss works pretty well on the pipes? trace: the information crossing
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wires right now, reports coming out about 12 united states air planes, all a330s, the air speed monitors failing. we will show you how that affects your safety and your travel. the new gamble to help one of america's biggest airports survive the recession and why some people absolutely hate the idea.
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trace: we want to update you now on breaking news coming out of the associated press. their sources are saying that 12 united states jetliners belonging to northwest airlines over the past several months, their heirs the indicators have failed. at that time, the pilots did not know how fast they were going. it was the air france crash.
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aviation experts believe that a faulty one may have contributed to that crash. let's bring in a commercial pilot. for a pilot not to know how fast he is going is critical. >> it is a concern. wanting we will tell people is that pilots are trained to fly the aircraft by looking out the window and having a feel for what the aircraft is doing. it does not mean that the airplane is going to fall out of the sky or anything like that. trace: there was a lot of talk about the buffalo aircraft. that clearly was not a jet, but when you are in turbulence, pilots need to know how fast they are going. >> that is a very good point. in the buffalo crash, the pilot did not feel that the airplane
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was getting slow. it is still a big concern. trace: what should be done about this? is this something that could prompt the grounding of a330's the faa saying that they will look at these before they go back up into the air? >> i have heard other industry experts talking about this. i think airbus is already looking into it. trace: thank you, sir. in the meantime, it is the bottom of the hour. we have brand new information on three new stories. there is word that the taliban leader in pakistan has been killed. >> hello, trace. the u.s. intelligence community says that there is a high probability that he was killed in that drone airstrike two days ago. they're not awaiting any
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physical proof that he was killed. they are looking at signals intelligence, intercepted conversations about who his successor may be. trace: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. let's hear about what happened at the white house briefing. >> the briefing is going on right now, but we have been looking at the political a fence surrounding president obama. there are two governor's races this fall. experts say that the president is not likely to make a difference in either of them. that is not the only factor. virginia has not elected a governor from the party of the white house in 32 years. the incumbent jon corzine of new jersey is 14 points behind his competitor. trace: there are concerns about the h1n1 flu virus. >> the latest federal guidance for schools is, do not shut down
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in the case of suspected swine flu outbreaks. they say, try to find ways now to stay open. they can do things like setting up a quarantine room and making arrangements with parents who might have to keep sick children at home. the cdc says that the best way to fight the swine flu is still a vaccine. until then, there advising people to wash their hands thoroughly. trace: in atlanta, we're advising people to go to foxnews.com to find out everything you ever wanted to know about the h1n1 virus. here is a navigational tool or of our website. >> we will start with the home page. as y see, we always have the latest stories up. we have this one about the verdict to -- to keep schools open and must have a large amount of students with the swine flu. they are going to need three shots if they are to be vaccinated against the swine flu
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and the regular flu. let's say you need more information. we have our topics page. this will take you to all of our coverage on h1n1. that includes the stories that we just discussed along with previous ones like the one, for example about separating the swine flu myths from fact. we also have videos. this one is dr. manny talking about separating those myths. if you have trouble finding the page, just go back to foxnews.com and search for h1n1. that will bring up our search page. that will have the topic page that we just discussed. trace: whatever you are looking for on the website, just put it up on the search box and boom. >> not only will you see the
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stories, but you will have the topic page. you can go straight from the search function and navigate to videos, storiesvideosblogs, and even our very popular slide shows. trace: thank you. >> thank you. martha: i think we need a new picture of dr. manny. he looked like he was about his knees. >> can you show her over here? this is where they have all the meetings. this is where the muckity mucks decide what we're going to do on a daily basis. martha is all pretty is all the way across the news room. we're live inside the newsroom. martha: we're hanging over everybody shoulder. thank you. do you ever feel like you are being gouged when you buy food
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at the airport? you are not alone. more and more travelers are griping about it. you have to get to the airport extra early due to going through security. your dining options are limited once you squeeze past a security checkpoint. some airports require its eateries to set street prices. a few of them are. all of those are doing that. miami international airport is in bad financial shape, on another note. a potential lifeline is literally a gamble. county leaders want to at slot machines to raise $20 million a year. not everyone is so crazy about this idea. how serious is miami international with putting gambling into the airport?
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>> seriously enough to have applied for a permit. there in the process of trying to get along very well with the miami commission. i can tell you this much. state law says that people will grant the permit, but only if the site allows gambling, plus horse racing, having a track on site. there will be no slot machines unless the site as slot machines. in the proposal, it said that if it gets all bad, if we have to, we can run some 20 or 40 races per year. the other part of this is state law says, you can actually have this thing going on had a satellite site.
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that is the avenue they actually want to take. martha: very interesting. they do not want to have competition with the airport, right? >> no competition at all. they do not like this. they say the airport has enough on its hands to worry about. how about some better service? the airport's part is, we would much rather have these people out there gambling rather than having them sleeping and buying cigarettes. let them put their money here and just gamble. i can tell you this much. the airport is sticking to its plan. this is up to a state agency. there is no timetable just yet. you have a couple of airports taking a look at this. phoenix international is also looking at it. martha: thank you very much. trace: i was on a roll.
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trace: the wars in iraq and afghanistan forging u.s. troops to use unconventional tactics, patrolling house-to-house and urban areas in battling insurgents in remote, harsh environments. senior cadets at the u.s. military academy are getting some special training, preparing them for commanding boots on the ground.
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laura, it sounds like west point is taking this real-life scenario to a brand new level. >> that is right. there are a bunch of different summer training sessions that have been going on that we want to tell you about. i'm going to have my cameraman showing you the west point parachuting team. we have been watching these guys coming out of the sky. we have been trying to time our live shot. it did not work out so well. west point has been named the best college in the country. that is being ranked and "forms magazine." the superintendent is being credited with helping the academy reach that number one status. we do want to get to some of this fantastic tape. we went out on these drills earlier this week.
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the added dimension really helps about what is new out here at west point. that is why these instructors have been putting senior cadets through ethical, political, and cultural scenarios that help cadets deal with everything from a handshake to a hand grenade once they are deployed. our fox team went around and watched the new development training in process with our future u.s. army officers storming a mock enemy unit with arabic actors. check it out. >> you have to learn how to react quickly and make decisions quickly under stress. the war thing -- the worst thing you can do is not make a decision and really sit down and think about what you can do. then people are going to keep dying. >> cadets need to learn how to work under stress, deal with orders, and deal with real-life scenarios.
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trace: it is spectacular. laura, thank you. let's head over to somewhere -- acquisitions there again. martha: we are on. shepard: we're talking about air-conditioning. martha: i hate air-conditioning. it cannot be cold enough. what is coming up? shepard: have you been following this murder plot out of florida, the woman accused of trying to hire a hit man to kill her husband? they had only been married for six months. martha: it was not going very well. shepard: if you saw the video, she is pretending to cry, according to police, but never really shed a tear. why would she do this? it is something about money.
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martha: what else? shepard: we're going to talk about the new jets for congress. martha: i just love that story. there were supposed to get one new jet. why don't you throw in two more? we sometimes do not want to go to the same place. they have three new jets. they're screaming and yelling about these companies traveling to washington to talk about the auto industry. they screamed and yelled because they took their jets there. shepard: i bet there's going to be more screaming and yelling about all of this. chris wallace is going to be on. i have been missing my time with chris wallace. martha: he is awesome. shepard: he has the best sense of humor. he is coming on. we're going to talk about president obama's unemployment numbers and the president seems to think that the worst might be behind us. that would be nice. we will cross our fingers.
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oh yes, the yankees beat the red sox last night. martha: i am just a long- suffering mets fan. we will see you then. back to you. trace: it is a long season. a truck catches fire. he had no idea when he was in for. the entire video and the man behind the lens is next.
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trace: at the top, mark sanford and his wife moving out of the mansion with their four sons. this after the governor admitted
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an affair with a woman in venezuela. now moving back, she will work on healing her family. the man credited -- credited with creating the rat pack has died. john hughes, credited with "16 candles," "the breakfast club," died while walking near his home in manhattan. and three people dead in roslyn heights, about 20 miles east of manhattan. a fourth victim is in the hospital in critical condition. a guy minding his own business when he comes across a truck on fire in chesapeake, virginia. he gets a bad feeling, and sure enough -- boom. a massive explosion.
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the man who shot this amazing video is fine, and he joins us now on the phone. welcome. that had to wrestle you to the bone. >> a little bit. trace: when you said you had a bad feeling, do you think, man -- did you get tossed a little bit? tell us after that what happened. >> he started running, and you can tell that the camera is moving, and i am waiting for another one, but it takes a long time to explode. we did not get much more. we saw i'd catch fire, and he was still in the truck.
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trace: a hero, and a good photographer. derek smith. thank you. martha: you probably think any exercise is good exercise. now, there is evidence that maybe not. research shows that outdoor exercise can do your body and a little bit of harm. here to explain is our fitness and lifestyle expert. good to have you here. one thing i love about the summer is i can run outside, you can put your ipod on and run through the park. not good for you? >> i definitely would not recommend that you do it, especially in heavily trafficked areas such as manhattan. you think you're safe along the river, and in chicago we think we are safe by the lake, but there are a tremendous amount of things you are breathing in, such as ozone, particulate
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matter, sulfur dioxide, and other things we should not be breathing in. when we exercise, we breed and 15 times as much air as when sedentary, and a lot of this is dangerous. you have to think before you put on those running shoes and go outside. martha: when you are away, near the beach, is that all right? >> i think that is a much better option. it is also great when it is windy out, because it slows things around more. but keep in mind, you can get much more dehydrated outside and you want to make sure you have some block on. it does great things for our body, but too much of a good thing, just like to much cardiovascular exercise outside it is ultimately not the best decision. martha: give us a couple of parameters.
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>> i would do it first thing in the morning, or later in the day, when it is not as sonny. even if you are extreme, i would wear a mask, which people are doing with swine flu, because he will not get as much down your throat. and it is important to stay hydrated, because your body can boost immunity and be defended against pollutants. so that is definitely something else i would do if you elect to go outside. just be careful when you do it. martha: running with a mask does not sound like fun. but better than swine flu. trace: what do you mean? martha: i am going away on vacation for summer. it is approved. [laughter]
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